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Post by Administrator on Mar 15, 2007 8:26:17 GMT -5
Ok...This is what I think....
I think, Saphira will mate with the last dragon (the green one)
Glaedr will die when his master dies (just like Joda did in starwars) since he is already week.
And Thorn will die when Eragon kills him in a duel. (to weaken Murtaighs magical abilities)
As for the kings Dragon, well, since the king has to be defeated, there isn't really any chance left for the dragon.
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Post by Administrator on Mar 18, 2007 0:07:27 GMT -5
I think that she may mate with the kings dragon. I mean. He isnt as strongly connected to the king considering he isnt the kings true dragon. I think the true owner of the dragon will be good and she will like Shruikan. Unlikely, but maybe...
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Post by Shep Saurhiliel on Mar 18, 2007 14:21:21 GMT -5
I have to agree with administraitor 1(this is going to get confusing) but I don't think Eragon will kill Thorn but instead find a way to turn Murtagh to the good side
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Post by Maenya Vanyali-Seithr on Mar 18, 2007 16:30:05 GMT -5
I think the that there will be another place of dragons and she will find a mate there, much more interesting!
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Post by Lyndotia on Mar 25, 2007 0:35:07 GMT -5
Well, I find the possibility of Saphira's death to be one of those ten to the forty-ninth power situations. (The probability of ten to the fiftieth power is the scientific idea of an impossibility.) In other words, possible, but so unlikely that it's all but impossible. I just don't see Paolini killing off the race of dragons.
Glaedr already has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. Oromis has been slowly declining since we first saw him (in fact, long before that, really), and he doesn't have much time left. I seriously doubt that he will survive the third book, and as he's been bonded with Glaedr for at least a century, there is virtually no way that Glaedr could live without him.
I don't know about Thorn, though I voted for him once before simply because I didn't want to go with everyone else. ;D (I love a good debate.) If Eragon were to kill Thorn, it wouldn't be just an act to reduce Murtagh's power. I mean, he thought of the guy as a brother, and then found out "Oh, by the way, we are brothers; I'll spare you for now, but good luck next time" and since Eragon is a Rider, too, he would know what it means to kill another Rider's dragon. Particularly after Brom, I don't know that he could do it except as a last resort.
Shuriken.. yeah.. I don't know about that. He's been raised by Galbatorix for a long, long time, and I don't know that the heart of a Rider who died a century ago would have much bearing on who he is now. Although it is possible that he might have some sort of resentment toward Galbatorix for what was done...
The green dragon is a strong possibility; I've wondered if it might not hatch for Orik or Arya or someone who wound up in the capital during or after the battle with Galbatorix.
Still, I have to vote with Maenya. It would be exceptionally hard to entirely wipe out a species as formidable as the dragons, particularly considering that there are places that they could hide. The Hadarac, for instance; how much thought do you think Galbatorix has given to such barren or deserted areas as these over the past hundred years?
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Post by ??? (To be decided) on Mar 28, 2007 17:48:50 GMT -5
hmmm...all very valid points...I really like the idea of there being more wild dragons...
Did Chris say anything about the eggs...how many there where?
Did he give a definite number or did he leave that part open?
We know about Saphiras blue egg...Thorns Red egg and the green egg...
Did he ever mention that there might be more...or he he say no more...sorry...thats it.....?
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Post by Seris Bjartevarin on May 3, 2007 0:04:35 GMT -5
Well, I know for a fact that he said the only known eggs were the three, but whether he actually said for certain that was all there was, I'm not sure. It does seem that every character and scrap of information so far has pointed to that, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. The dragons are a very powerful and ancient race, after all; it just seems to me that it would be very hard to kill every single one of them, even as a Rider as old as Galbatorix.
Of course, Galbatorix could logically have scryed over known areas, but he can't have been everywhere in Alagaesia, and he can't scry everywhere at once. It could be entirely possible for there to be more dragons, somewhere. Oromis and Glaedr were able to escape and hide, and they've lived through the king's entire reign. It's not really implausible to believe that there could be others like them -- granted, without the help of the Elves, but the dragons really wouldn't need that under the right circumstances.
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Post by ??? (To be decided) on May 3, 2007 6:51:51 GMT -5
Its true that you can only scry a place which you have seen...and Alageasia is a vast place...
I think its virtually impossible to visit every place.
Further more Galbatorix would never be able to scry into the Elvish home land due to the protection which the elves have set up.
Its entirely possible that there is another area where the wild dragons live...but nobody knows about it, so they all presume the worst..which is that the four dragons are the only four left.
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Just a small point on how easy it is to kill dragons...
For ordinary people is would be very difficult..maybe even impossible if your on your own....but a rider or a magician is a totally different being altogether...
Fact: We know that dragons can do magic, but they can't control it...(expect for spraying fire ) this would give the rider a emmense advantage.
We saw how Murtaigh stopped Saphira in mid air (last part of the 2nd book)
Saphira was completely helpless...this alone lets me believe that a rider would be able to defeat a dragon.
Its true that dragons can protect themselves better from mental attacks however I believe that all a rider would have to do is simply sever a vein in the dragons head to kill it...should be easily done. (that is if sending a pebble through the head doesn't kill it first
What are your thoughts?
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Post by Seris Bjartevarin on May 3, 2007 22:42:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I just don't see Galbatorix being able to see everything, because the old Riders would try to go everywhere they could (and this was in times of peace, as well), and I seriously doubt that they ever accomplished it. So it would be very hard for Galbatorix to do so while he was busy waging a war against dragons and Riders.
Galbatorix has never seen Ellesmera, anyway; we were told so in Eldest. Even if he had, it's true that he couldn't scry it. There is way too much magic there; he can't fight every Elf in Du Weldenvarden.
No, I'm not saying that I don't think he could kill dragons; I'm saying that I don't think he could, in essence, get them to line up for annihilation. You can't tell me that they didn't know about what he was doing, and that word didn't spread. The Riders were able to put up a sort of halting defense.. for a little while. Is it really so implausible that some of the dragons could have done the same thing, and perhaps found a way to avoid Galbatorix? They are very intelligent beings, after all, and they have survived wars that threatened to wipe out races...
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